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Essential Contributor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 245
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Email providers with one-man team
I'm not sure if this is appropriate topic because it's not to downplay the excellent effort one put in the service.
Also there're some follow-up questions to this: 1) How long the service we use will stay alive? 2) Is there a continuity plan already in place? 3) For the next 20 years, which services in this category can we trust? (this is more of a casual question, the proper answer probably is "no one knows", "only time can tell"). To name a few that I know (correct me if I'm wrong): 1) vfemail.net 2) purelymail 3) cock.li 4) danwin1210.de 5) eumx.net (not really sure about this) 6) uninbox 7) ??? Honorable mention: MXroute - I think it used to be one-man and now @jar is working in a team with few others. Also I believe they already have a continuity plan in place and I'm actually using it as my primary email provider right now. Last but not least, do you use any of the above as one of your primary emails (i.e. receiving medical or banking emails), or do you use them just as backups? Last edited by truemagic : 21 Apr 2025 at 05:00 PM. |
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The "e" in e-mail
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,531
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mine is one man shop - xyamail.com
but we currently have 300+ happy users. ![]() |
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 159
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cock.li is the oneman team?
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The "e" in e-mail
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 2,297
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I don't think you can trust that any small email service provider will be around tomorrow, let alone 20 years, especially one-man shops. That's not to say you can't use one as long as you understand that something could happen tonight to the owner, locking you out of your email maybe forever. I would only use one with my own robust backup plan, such as IMAP or POP to a local backup on Thunderbird, and a plan to where you can quickly move your email to assuming you control your own domain. But moving to a new service and setting things up takes time. It would not be out of the question to lose a few days of email or at least contact with your emails, and that could very well be the day you get the job offer or a major client contacts you. So many things can happen with a one-man service. Just for example, what happens when they take a vacation? Or get in a car accident. Or, just forget to pay some service bill. Or, what about a data breach? Do the small providers have the robust security and people monitoring security that you want and need? Yes, stuff does happen with big providers too, but in my experience and that of billions of others services like Gmail don't go down for long, and there is very little chance it will go away without substantial notice. Since I am getting older I am also worried about what happens to my important emails after I am gone, and I don't want to leave a complicated technical mess for my loved ones. That's why I am moving to only the biggest, most reliable and longest lasting email services that will definitely keep working long after I am gone. Plus, if something does happen to these biggies plenty of people will know and understand how they work and what can be done.
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: north
Posts: 243
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 410
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Provided you don't let the email service handle your DNS, you can switch to a registrar's free forwarding in minutes. Outgoing mail may be trickier, but in most cases you could get by with using different address.
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The "e" in e-mail
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 2,297
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Yes, there are ways to mitigate any problems, but you might not know things are not working for hours or days. Plus, if you are traveling when stuff happens you might not have the passwords you need, etc. In any case, reliability is the #1 feature I look for in my main email service. Smaller services can be a lot of fun to use, and often better for certain things, but they do require more care and vigilance on your own part.
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The "e" in e-mail
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 2,370
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 245
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Recently, I've developed a growing interest in the Horde webmail interface provided by VFEmail.net — the mail filters are great. For now, I'm forwarding my domain emails to be managed by VFEmail, but I still have some concerns about it being a one-man operation.
That said, it's truly remarkable that VFEmail.net has survived for 20 years and is still running today. I have no doubt it can continue operating for many more years, but the limitation of being a one-man shop is still there. From what @jeffpan mentioned in another thread, a founder can pay upfront for a domain for 20 years to ensure it continues operating beyond their lifetime. The same applies to hosting servers or infrastructure — those can also be paid upfront. However, that doesn't cover everything beyond billing, such as the domain or hosting provider going out of business, unexpected service downtime that requires manual intervention (beyond a simple automated restart), or other unforeseen issues that could cause the service to go offline even if it's technically on “auto-pilot.” I'm genuinely interested in using a VFEmail.net address (user@vfemail.net ) as my primary email, but can anyone confirm whether Rick is running it entirely on his own, or if there's a small team behind the scenes who could take over if he's no longer able to maintain it? The same concern applies to EUmx.net and MXroute. I understand — and I'm impressed — that these services have survived for so many years (almost as long as Gmail/Hotmail in EUmx's case). But eventually, we still have to think about service longevity if the founder decides to move on. So is it really unwise to trust such services to safeguard your primary email address? Is using your own custom domain and paying for it 10 years upfront the safer option? Even then, the concern doesn't completely disappear — once the domain expires and is released, emails could potentially end up in the wrong hands. What's your take on this? |
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Intergalactic Postmaster
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: EU
Posts: 5,016
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Back to your own domain: if you take that route, it's your responsibility to renew it in due time. In my, admittedly limited, experience the registrar will be sending numerous reminder emails before recycling the domain. |
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Cornerstone of the Community
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Scotland
Posts: 858
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I'm not sure what you mean by "a registrar's free forwarding". Chaging the DNS is only part of the solution; you need to wait for the new values to replace obsolete cached values across the world before all senders will be able to send to your new mail host. I can't see how a DNS-provider can force that to happen quicker. Of course if this is a planned change you can shrink the period of validity of the cached DNS entries (TTL) in advance |
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Intergalactic Postmaster
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: EU
Posts: 5,016
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You register a domain, say example.com, and then you define a set of forwards sales@example.com -> joebloogs@gmail... boss@example.com -> marybrown@outlook... me@example.com -> johnny@yahoo... |
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Cornerstone of the Community
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Scotland
Posts: 858
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But SideshowBob's comment was in terms of /moving/ a service ... so the domain's DNS is already defined somewhere (else). Someone wanting to email 'boss@example.com' will look up the (old) MX records for 'example.com'. |
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The "e" in e-mail
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown
Posts: 2,618
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I think Purelymail is no longer a one-man team. They recently announced two new people involved with the service (maybe not on full-time base, but involved with the project anyway).
As for true one-man operations: I'd be wary about it. Maybe some are better maintained and better run than some well-known services, but there is always the risk involved with "what if the person running the service... ?". What if the person running the service dies? What if the person running the service gets ill (even if just for a brief time, if he's too ill to work, then what?) What if the person running the service goes on a holiday? What if the person running the service just doesn't feel like investing too much energy and time in it anymore? I'd feel more confident if at least a couple of others are on stand-by to keep the service running smoothly in case one of the above scenarios takes place. I think ideally an email provider has a small but dedicated team. Like Tuta or Posteo. Not a team too large that it gets inpersonal, but a team large enough that the odds of the service being down are low. Ideally also a team that is focused mainly on email and not too many other stuff included in the service. I would be wary of one-person teams. It may be OK for registering third-party service accounts with subject to those accounts not requiring confirmation emails if you wish to change email address. It may also be OK for regular correspondence of not too much importance. I also very much admire some of those one-person team services, some of them have been running for many years and I admire it when a person is so dedicated to the project. But the question always remains: "what if that person... ?" |
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